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The really really interesting thing about LPUK is that it is the first political party in the UK (that I know about) that seems to have emerged from blogging. It would be very easy to write them off as an offshoot of the Cult of Guido, but then, even if it were true this, in itself, is a very curious and interesting phenomenon, isn't it?Consider the volumes of readers that Guido has, and imagine if every single one of them joined the same political party.
Seriously. Stop for a second and imagine what you could do with 80-100 thousand people, including a fair number of journalists, writers and bloggers. Guido claims to have nearly a million visitors over the year. That's power. That's real influence.
So did you imagine it? Don't cheat. I will be checking at the end.
Right, so, technically, if everyone that read Guido, or let's say Devil's Kitchen as probably the biggest LPUK blog, joined a single party, you'd be talking about a party that might actually be bigger than the Liberal Democrats. That is a terrifying and yet exciting thought.
See, I've argued many times that to unseat one of the top two parties in our system requires a significant sociological phenomenon. In Labour's case it required universal voting rights and the self-destruction of the Liberal Party in coalitions. It's a once in a lifetime event that may be immune to any sort of attempt to engineer it.
But what if Guido, tapping into a certain anti-politician zeitgeist has tapped into the seed of something powerful? Could New Media and User Generated Content actually morph into a viable political mass political movement? I do wonder. On paper it's possible. There's enough people reading political blogs to make just about anything happen. And, with people distrustful and suspicious of the Three Main Parties and politicians in general doesn't it sort of imply that any great surge will come from something outside the existing system? Something that seems to come from 'The People' themselves?
Now, I'll be realistic and honest. The LPUK proposal is not quite there yet. It's not something that people are going to join casually, and I think far too many of the people who read these blogs are committed to another party - but the potential is there. The potential is to create a sense of shared identity and allow those people to communicate and organise. That's all that's needed to create a political movement.
The race is on, as far as I'm concerned. The Liberal Democrats are secure in their 3rd place for now but we cannot guarantee it will remain that way forever. If people decide that we're never, ever going to get into power then they're going to get bored of us unless we can prove we can deliver something useful in the meantime.
For the LPUK, their recent troubles with bloggers like Old Holborn quitting the party and closing his blog due to death threats *breathe* as a result of other members leaking his name after expressing strong anti-Israel opinions *breathe* are a disaster. For a party who exists primarily in the blogosphere, this sort of conflict is tremendously embarrassing*. If the movement is real it will survive this but Mr Holborn is not exactly going quietly.
It could be that no viable political movement comes out of the blogosphere. It could be that existing movements are the only ones that will benefit. But the seed of something interesting is there and I'm looking forward to seeing how it plays out.
*Update: And, you know, thinking about, a blogger having to close and delete the blog because of death threats after expressing opinions is absolutely friggin' terrifying and upsetting and awful in it's own right. Not just for Mr Holborn, but for anyone that believes that you should be able to express opinions without psychopaths threatening horrible painful death to you and your family to stop you. This world is a mess.
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13 comments:
Well, I admit the Obo vs OH fiasco was... insane, and kinda complicated, really. But, at the end of the day, neither side reflected LPUK policy (non intervention), and it's all calmed down now.
There are lots of LPUK bloggers, and yes, many swear a lot, but we have a lot to be angry about. Nonetheless, we're not exactly going to become mainstream any time soon. This is because blogs, while fun and all, are entirely insufficient to get mainstream attention. We do need to begin some real world campaigning, and we do need to get some issues out into the public. Otherwise, we may well not get anywhere.
Still, we've just had our first birthday. It's early days. Things like the recent blog war can still be put down to growing pains. When I signed up for the LPUK, I knew it was going to be for the long haul. So far, I have no reason to regret joining.
I wish you guys well anyway, that's for sure.
It is sad that the need was felt to closr the blog in question, but, as pointed out by Martin, none of it had anything to do with LPUK policy.
A conflict between two people, bloggers, that has been going on since well before the LPUK was even considered is, or rather, has, come to a conclusion.
Ironic really, when you consider the subject that has proven to be the final straw to bring about the end of their conflict.
The LPUK will continue, will grow, and will surely become more and more appealing to more and more people.
That's the plan, anyway!
Im another LPUK blogger So there are plenty of us
I didnt even know of Old Holborn until a few weeks ago and now Im going to have to read it all in the next four days
Expressing an opinion isn't the same thing as being able to communicate it in a way which will be respected.
And if you can't command respect then you won't last long in any office you manage to gain.
Me, I love swearing, but there's a world of difference in doing it in public and doing it in private.
Small parties tend to be sectarian, and sectarians often think, that the ends justify the means - which actually isn't very libertarian.
I should add I think the LibDems will be in Government within my lifetime and I want to help make it happen...
In fact I'd go so far as to say it could easily happen WITHIN 20 years.
So get on board now!
I thought a significant core of LPUK came from a group of libertarians deciding to leave UKIP? I don't think they are some special phenomenon.
All views mean is that someone finds your page worth their time to read. Saying anything more than that, even that they are sympathetic, is going to far and talking about potential party numbers is ridiculous.
As for LPUK, I'll consider them to be in a race with us when they actually, you know, do something more than blog. A party that acts as a commentariat is no threat to any political group. If merely existing and enthusiastically discussing political positions represented political significance parliament would be full of communists...
I agree that it is outrageous that Old Holborn has had to close his blog (though I think the language in which he criticises Israel is dicey at times and does flirt with anti-Semitism). The sad thing is that the Israel/Palestine debate does attract extremists which is part of the reason it never gets resolved (on both sides).
And incidentally I wouldnt rate Guido's influence too highly since his blog is basically like The Sun..you might as well say 'if all the readers of x paper joined a political party they would be bigger than Lib Dems.....true but it doesnt actually prove an awful lot really...
OH was rarely a libetarian!
His blog was full of the nastiness to the underclass that Tory's were known for in the late 80's.
Personally, I would prefer to recommend Obo's blog which at least seemed to include some kind of thinking - not just a rant at the expense of the lower classes!
I understand the last time the liberals were in power, their policies were very close to the current policies of the LPUK - there may be something in this!
I thought a significant core of LPUK came from a group of libertarians deciding to leave UKIP? I don't think they are some special phenomenon.
An Iain Dale slur, I'm afraid. LPUK has never had, now or ever,any connection to UKIP. A couple of founding members were ex-UKIP'ers ~ but that's about as far as it goes.
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